Mayla's attempt to index the Forum (he he)

[m1469]

I have been collecting links for a little while and would like to organize them ridiculously.  So, I will go alphabetically by major subject areas and within each subject I will also alphabetize (sometimes, he he).  Please feel free to add links you feel are important.  The whole point of this thread is to beat Bob  ... ehem, I mean create a very oraganized approach to information on the forum.


Submit a link for the index
https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,9238.msg93690.html#msg93690
(request for help in compiling threads : description of how to prepare the link)



BERNHARD; MISC

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4858.msg46046.html#msg46046
(Paul's plan to try it himself)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4750.msg45222.html#msg45222
(Mound's questions to Bernhard and Chang on approach and the point)


https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,6976.msg69298.html#msg69298
(Torp's experiences implementing Bernhard's ideas)


COMPOSER SPECIFIC

*BACH, JS

GENERAL

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=4825a1a8dcae9ef865ed9d102a4cfe8d&topic=2585.msg23066#msg23066
(Thoughts on Bach's work)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=243d1bea46b8b4a07ed6a0a9fd4732c7&topic=2917.msg25570#msg25570
(Progressive order of Bach's works)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3056.msg26761.html#msg26761
(Memorizing Bach)


INVENTIONS, PARTITAS, SINFONIAS, SUITES,

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5323.msg50895.html#msg50895
https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7303.msg72931.html#msg72931
(Ranking of them)

INVENTIONS (can be applied to any contrapuntal works)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4736.msg44774.html#msg44774
(how to play inventions – Escher picture – Example: Invention 4 – Analogy with the game of chess)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3171.msg27807.html#msg27807
(How to learn them)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2714.msg23310.html#msg23310
(How to teach them usng invention no 1)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=381a6f095e4b389a6231721eb3ee5351&topic=7246.msg72307#msg72307
(Help with practicing; 2-part invention in Bb)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4736.0.html
(invention 4 – comparison with chess game and Escher)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,1911.msg14853.html#msg14853
(Invention no. 8 – relative difficulty of the inventions – progressive order of Bach’s keyboard works – CD  recommendations)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3187.msg27993.html#msg27993
(order of difficulty of the inventions)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5055.msg48120.html#msg48120
(fingering for sinfonia no. 9)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5143.msg49995.html#msg49995
(Inventions and sinfonias: Bach’s pedagogical order of difficulty)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7857.msg78912.html#msg78912
(ornamentation and inventions – general discussion on ornamentation)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7246.msg72307.html#msg72307
(how to outline invention 14)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,8015.msg81149.html#msg81149
(ornamentation of invention no. 1)




WTC

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2857.msg25925.html#msg25925
(Ranking of them)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2857.msg59558.html#msg59558
(Plan for learning Bach's WTC)


*BEETHOVEN

Other

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3985.msg36303.html#msg36303
(does fur elise have a second movement?)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5162.msg49154.html#msg49154
(Fur elise: breakdown in sessions).

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7310.msg72914.html#msg72914
(Fur elise : which hand to use – the score is a model – use whatever hand is comfortable – Scarlatti k 27 as another example)

Sonatas

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2420.msg20980.html#msg20980
(Discussion on the difficulty of the several movements of the Moonlight. Grades for the movements)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2319.msg23059.html#msg23059
(Hammerklavier)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2748.msg23723.html#msg23723
(progressive difficulty list for all 32 sonatas)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5497.msg53751.html#msg53751
(Books on sonata analysis)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5672.msg55167.html#msg55167
(Moonlight information)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7139.msg76043.html#msg76043
(pieces that prepare for the Pathetique)


*CHOPIN

Etudes

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,1927.msg16974.html#msg16974
(Etude op. 10 no. 1 – Cortot edition – Meiting and Hmoll discuss tendonitis)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2074.msg17096.html#msg17096
(different editions)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2678.msg23656.html#msg23656
(Suggestions for different editions)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3197.msg28098.html#msg28098
(Op. 25 no. 1 –  grades for all etudes and nocturnes)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3233.msg28792.html#msg28792
(op. 10 no. 2 – Robert Henry excellent post)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3916.msg35679.html#msg35679
(preparatory pieces for Revolutionary)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4957.msg47444.html#msg47444
(Op. 10  no. 9 – discussion of fingering and description of movement)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5090.msg48850.html#msg48850
(How to  figure out fingering for Op. 25 no. 11)


Nocturnes

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3267.msg28857.html#msg28857
(Op. 9 no.2 – fingering and LH movement)


Other

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2063.msg17158.html#msg17158
(Fantasie Impromptu –  Moschelles piece – the popularity of classical music)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2399.msg20514.html#msg20514
(Fantasie Impromptu – Chang’s book)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2958.msg25879.html#msg25879
(Easiest Chopin pieces – grades 4-5-6)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2702.msg23153.html#msg23153
(Tackling the fantasy impromptu)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3683.msg32884.html#msg32884
(difficulty of scherzos and ballades)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4070.msg37175.html#msg37175
(KK numbers – the problem with Chopin editions)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4114.msg37671.html#msg37671
(Chopin: saint or sinner – a provocative biography)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,6957.msg69287.html#msg69287
(Chopin pieces grades 7 &

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,6954.msg69289.html#msg69289
(Chopin Polonaises, graded)


Preludes

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2341.msg20135.html#msg20135
(preludes - Claudio Arrau as a tantra expert)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2516.msg21766.html#msg21766
(Preludes 8, 16 and 24 – difficulties in each)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3827.msg34579.html#msg34579
(grades for all preludes)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4016.msg36601.html#msg36601
(directions for interpretation of no. 4)



Waltzes

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2054.msg16942.html#msg16942
(how many waltzes are there in total)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3943.msg35797.html#msg35797
(grades for all the waltzes)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4713.msg44552.html#msg44552
(how to master the waltz in Am)



*DEBUSSY

*MOZART

*RACHMANINOV

*SCARLATTI

*SCRIABIN

*SHOSTAKOVICH


IMPROVISATION

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5421.msg51828.html#msg51828
(Inner state for improvisation – how to do it like cziffra – excellent advice from Ted)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,8673.msg88006.html#msg88006
(Ted on improvisation)


MEMORIZING

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3561.msg31700.html#msg31700
(7 times)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2083.msg17227.html#msg17227
(Memorization techniques)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3858.msg34936.html#msg34936
(Before books were freely available memorization was paramount, book suggestions)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3056.msg26761.html#msg26761
(Memorizing Bach)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=afe662dd2f5e8b1e9378305818ae05c5&topic=7399.msg74758#msg74758
(Step by step example)




PERFORMANCE

*BODY MOVEMENT

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2809.msg24839.html#msg24839
(Body movement)


*NERVES

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,8956.msg90799.html#msg90799
(Coping with nerves)



PRACTICE

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=5e12b20d0aa9ff4b9e7b88aaf7f528de&topic=6263.msg61691#msg61691
(Practice Time)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7603.msg76044.html#msg76044
(Practice Routine; long list of links by Bernhard)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=5e12b20d0aa9ff4b9e7b88aaf7f528de&topic=4988.msg47452#msg47452
(Better utilization of practice time : list of links by Berhnhard)


https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4168.msg38569.html#msg38569
(Keeping pieces polished)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5995.msg58775.html#msg58775
(Mastering a piece, what does it really mean?)


*MENTAL PRACTICE

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,1894.msg14707.html#msg14707
(Mental preparation)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2458.msg21365.html#msg21365
(Mental practice)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,8491.msg86440.html#msg86440
(List of links)

READING

*SIGHT READING

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,1871.msg14384.html#msg14384
(Reading notation – Richmann’s book – Cambridge word scramble example)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,1976.msg16072.html#msg16072
(Sight reading – Richmann’s book)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2406.msg20820.html#msg20820
(the grand staff)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2577.msg22247.html#msg22247
(Keyboard topography – how to find notes by touch)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2713.msg23282.html#msg23282
(Teaching bass clef – the full explanation for the grand staff)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2751.msg23710.html#msg23710
(detailed explanation of the sight-reading process)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2757.msg23890.html#msg23890
(Sight reading techniques – Good post by faulty on the folly of pedagogues)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2763.msg25148.html#msg25148
(music to develop sight reading from scratch)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3205.msg28255.html#msg28255
(how not to look at the keys – Richmann’s reviews)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3334.msg29381.html#msg29381
(Reading both staffs as a single grand staff - Reasons for working on scales - Detailed discussion of Richmann’s book)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4461.msg41580.html#msg41580
(Looking at the keys: Good or bad? exercises to help finding notes by touch. Good contributions by Chang).

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4506.msg42967.html#msg42967
(accompanying as a way to teach sightreading)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5090.msg48850.html#msg48850
(the score is tabs for piano)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7466.msg74462.html#msg74462
(Sightreading – Comparison with reading – St Augustine reading skills)

[m1469]

REPERTOIRE

https://pianoforum.net/Graded_Pieces_All.xls
(An amazing  spreadsheet of graded pieces, compiled by Torp, of most pieces mentioned on this forum to date)


*BEGINNER/INTERMEDIATE

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=aeb70615d48402b7cccf2e5c95d7574b&topic=3998.msg36406#msg36406
(CD recommendations of easier pieces)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,8126.msg82071.html#msg82071
(Pieces for an adult (quasi) beginner)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=cf5798828dafc1a200f2dbf4c611b64e&topic=7008.msg69624#msg69624
(Beautiful music that is not hard to play)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=a11a266b8b44ffc1144a8df8bb7e3683&topic=2147.msg18098#msg18098
(Easiest yet greatest music ever written)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=483afef2d3bd7cb5d0582abea155f8e0&topic=4140.msg38111#msg38111
(Beginner piece you like to give as repertoire)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2562.msg22127.html#msg22127
(A few suggestions)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=04772a91a07dc071bfaf7eb2b7239063&topic=5063.msg49589#msg49589
(Albums for the Young)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=cf5798828dafc1a200f2dbf4c611b64e&topic=7237.msg72162#msg72162
(Links to easy piano music)

*INTERMEDIATE/INTERMEDIATE-ADVANCED

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3721.msg33399.html#msg33399
(Intermediate Repertoire suggestions)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5986.msg58774.html#msg58774
(Favorite intermediate composition: wealthy list plus links)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,942.msg13370.html#msg13370
(Show off pieces and Bernhard's first post (he he))

*ADVANCED

*UNCOMMON WORKS

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2352.msg23287.html#msg23287
(Selections from 16 different composers)



TEACHING

*GENERAL

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3466.msg30666.html#msg30666
(Role of a teacher)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2450.msg21250.html#msg21250
(Four levels of students)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3673.msg32874.html#msg32874
(No good teachers only good students)

*LESSONS

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2260.msg19270.html#msg19270
(Bernhard's general approach)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7899.msg79689.html#msg79689
(Daily lessons)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2260.msg90216.html#msg90216
(A master plan: week's worth of daily lessons)

*VERY YOUNG STUDENTS

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2192.msg18542.html#msg18542
(What method do you use with very young students?)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=7b2598371ec7fe982098b8024e22cab2&topic=7301.msg72911#msg72911
(What's the right age to start; list of links)


*STARTING TEACHING

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2032.msg19339.html#msg19339
(Pitfalls and requirements)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2906.msg25591.html#msg25591
(Advice on a lesson syllabus)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2970.msg25991.html#msg25991
(Other areas to study to become a good teacher)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,8050.msg81500.html#msg81500
(List of links)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5714.msg55753.html#msg55753
(List of links)






TECHNIQUE


EXERCISES

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,9104.msg92245.html#msg92245
(A case against Hanon and Pischna)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5352.msg50998.html#msg50998
(Speaking of Hanon: list of links by Bernhard)


GENERAL

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,9141.msg92577.html#msg92577
(A compendium of tricks for acquiring technique)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=46761f5be657cf4dad674741293a9f09&topic=4880.msg46339#msg46339
(What is technique? )


HAND INDEPENDENCE

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,1651.msg14344.html#msg14344
(Dropping notes: Bernhard)

OCTAVES

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,1242.msg13378.html#msg13378
(Book study for octaves)


SCALES AND ARPEGGIOS

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,8110.msg81884.html#msg81884
(list of links from Bernhard)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7328.msg74359.html#msg74359
(Setting goals: a list of links by Bernhard)



THEORY

*FORM


*BOOK RECOMMENDATIONS

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3034.msg26512.html#msg26512
(best theory books)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5629.msg54681.html#msg54681
(advanced theory books)

For counterpoint sites, have a look here:

https://www-student.furman.edu/users/r/rkelley/16thcent.htm
(Study guide to 16th century counterpoint)

https://humanities.uchicago.edu/classes/zbikowski/species.html#cantus
(guidelines to species counterpoint)

https://www.listeningarts.com/music/general_theory/species/menu.htm
(Book : An introduction to species counterpoint- most excellent book with many exercises)

https://www.schenkerguide.com/species1.html
(schenkerian analyis of counterpoint)

For theory, have a look here:

https://www.tonalityguide.com/
(Tom Pankhurst excellent site on music theory).

[m1469]

WHEN TO BEGIN STUDY


https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,6470.msg92142.html#msg92142
(Never too late)

[m1469]

a little more space 

[m1469]

OTHER HELPFUL COMPILATIONS

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5441.msg52047.html#msg52047
(Bob's Underground Lair)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5767.msg56133.html#msg56133
(The Biggest list of links ever from Bernhard)



JUST FOR THE FUN OF IT

INTRODUCTIONS

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,122.msg510.html#msg510
(Introductions)

STORIES

TRIVIA

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,8862.msg89888.html#msg89888
(The Obscure Riddle Thread #2)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,8691.msg88192.html#msg88192
(New Riddle Thread #2)




ONLY FOR THE EXTREMELY INTELLECTUAL

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4751.msg44902.html#msg44902
(Snail Race)

https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3801.msg34250.html#msg34250
(What if ?)

[Kassaa]

Wow, cool idea.

It would be cool as well if you copied the interesting good posts, and put them in one document so that you have one book with all the knowledge of pianoforum.net

[Kohai]

Yes!  This way m1469, you can spend hours upon hours doing something that nobody else wants to do themselves!  How nice of you.  I wonder what would happen once you've compiled all of that information?

[m1469]

Woah, it's okay Kohai  , I am sure there are a number of people working on very similar projects.  There are probably several whom are much more advanced within in it as well.  It's something I am doing anyway at this point.

Actually I have already started copying the posts that interest me from each thread, printing them and putting them into a binder.  But I have had a difficult time really organizing it all so I thought I would start this thread to aid in the organization and it will hopefully also be beneficial to anybody else who is interested.  By the way, I would be more than happy to share this at some point if it seems prudent.

People have been so wonderful to supply the information that they have, I am grateful for that, which is one of the reasons I would like to compile these things.  But completing it ?  LOL... that may take awhile (I'm extremely lazy  )!!! 

I do have practicing to attend to and teaching and that thing called... oh yeah, life (he he). 

I am a little curious about the end result of this.  Hmmm, we'll see I guess.  I am happy there is interest 

m1469

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[Tash]

good work mayla! i'm highly impressed you've made the effort to do this keep up the good work!

[Dazzer]

you have WAY to much time on your hands

[m1469]

I don't have any more time than anyone else, I just use it differently.  Besides, a lot of this is stuff I had to make time to collect.  I woke up a couple hours earlier every morning and spent an extra amount of time each day for about a month or so just collecting information and filing it away.  I have learned a lot in the process.  Now perhaps I qualify as a nerd or  a geek ?  Gosh, I really hope so 


m1469

[nicko124]

Wow! It was interesting to view Bernhards first post in which he didn't get worshipped repeatedely after it. (not that he does not deserve it).

Still well done for providing those links, it is really useful to those of us who perhaps don't have as much free time as we would like. It's a bit like the guy who made the spreadsheet with the Graded Pieces on them.

Thanks

[abell88]

Thank you, m1469, now my summer reading is organized!

[m1469]

By the way, if people actually start using this to look up information  , would you mind dropping me a little note to let me know if it was not "easy" to find (you are welcome to message me or drop a post) ?  Thanks.

m1469

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[m1469]

he he.... LOL 

Well, thank you Bob.  I am *slightly overwhelmed* with the river of informations.  Hmmmm, I was thinking that this thread can just turn into a dump of information and I may start another eventually.  Thanks for your link to your index. 


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[hiline]

This thread is useful, I want to bring it up.

[gilad]

genius! thank you. i've been using the search function lately. there is so much of interest to me in here, like abel88 said, my winter break reading is organised! nice!

[RealPianist]

Eventhough I read this thread after this thread was compile a year ago, but it is really helpful and a great idea.
Thanks very much to m1469 and Bob especially, also for those who has replies those threads. 

[gilad]

wow, a year ago, damn, i havent looked hard enough.

[ihatepop]

Feeling that this thread needs more attention, due to m1469's amazing effort, I have decided to bump it.

ihatepop

[ganymed]

sorry to bump this thread!!

Is it just me or are the links to the threads broken ?
Its so sad to loose  all  all those invaluable and very helpful topics

[shortyshort]

I have this thread in my "favourites" 

I use it all the time. 

Can't Nils "Sticky" it?? 

Please. 

EDIT: Why are all the links now dead ?  

[ganymed]

ya that was my question

[ptmidwest]

Change "pianoforum.net"  to "pianostreet.com".

[ganymed]

oh thanks for the advice !

[ptmidwest]

You're welcome.



 

[mikey6]

I see no religion heading although that may crossovers all of them coz most topics head that way anyway.

[ihatepop]

Come on, nils. Sticky this thread already!

Could someone bring this up to him?

ihatepop

[G.W.K]

What is a Sticky thread?

G.W.K

[ihatepop]

A sticky thread is a thread that always stays at the top of the board. For example, the 'introduction' thread in the 'Anything but Piano' board.

ihatepop

[G.W.K]

Ah, I see! Thank you.

G.W.K

[paris_hilton]

Indexes are sexy.   

Indices are hot.   

[chidi]

Jump in the sun and see if you handle that heat Paris!!!!!!